When
are you Saved?
Romans 7 is the key to understanding imputed Righteousness
It is clear to me that God first imputed sin to man after
the sin of symbolic Adam who "ate of the tree ". I won't bore you
with the scripture but it is well known .
Man then failed at God's laws in the Old testament and he
sent his Son to death on the cross for our Sins consistent with the blood
sacrifices in of the Hebrew priests (See Hebrews 9:3) and the passover sacrifices
for thousands of years. ( only they used lambs and calfs)
Jesus died for our sins that we might live in imputed
righteousness.(if you believe That Jesus is the SON of GOD). We don't actually live in righteousness. In the old testament ,even one sin condemned you!! Christ in Matthew 5 describes the plight of mankind under the law and before "everything is accomplished" which was his death and resurrection. Until Jesus was sacrificed HE sets out out plight in Matthew 5:20 as follows."
20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven." That is ,of course, impossible without imputed righteousness.
In Acts 16:30 we see the story of Paul and Silas in the Phillipian Jail. The jailer seeing the power of God to unlock the jail doors asks the question all of mankind wants to ask: "30 Then he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31 And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven." That is ,of course, impossible without imputed righteousness.
In Acts 16:30 we see the story of Paul and Silas in the Phillipian Jail. The jailer seeing the power of God to unlock the jail doors asks the question all of mankind wants to ask: "30 Then he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31 And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
But
"legalists" want you to live under the Old Testament law in order to
give "Tithes" to pay their mortgages and the "professional
Christians" and to do this they reimpose the falsehood that you must
live a"sinless" life so you can get forgiven by coming to sit in their building on Sunday. "Sin" is undefined ( please make a full and complete list of all sins so you won't mess up) but they want to throw you
back under the law to get you to pay money and feel guilt when your salvation
was a free gift from God through the sacrifice of Jesus, His Son!! and the simple belief in Him as the Son of God. You don't need that building or those employed"professional Christians".
The key to this argument that Paul was NOT obedient and that Paul knew he lived in sin all the time is written by Paul in Chapter 7 of Romans. (It
is really important to your freedom that you see this.)
Paul may have written 13 of the 27 New Testament books. He never met Christ and he was never water baptized. He had an undeniable conversion to the faith and fully communicates that without Christs he was "condemned". He came from evil. He loved the stoning of Steven (a believer) unto death.
Paul may have written 13 of the 27 New Testament books. He never met Christ and he was never water baptized. He had an undeniable conversion to the faith and fully communicates that without Christs he was "condemned". He came from evil. He loved the stoning of Steven (a believer) unto death.
Paul is real and died for his belief in
Jesus. He was a sinner -- all the time! He was not obedient .
He was a man in a constant battle-- all the time. ( Just like you.)
Do you question Paul's
salvation? I think not unless you are a fool.
Read this 3 times . "THERE IS NO CONDEMNATION IN CHRIST"!!! (Romans 8:1 )
Now next verse.
Read this 3 times . "THERE IS NO CONDEMNATION IN CHRIST"!!! (Romans 8:1 )
Now next verse.
Romans 8:2
New International Version (NIV)
2 because
through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death.
Then contemplate Paul's continuing SIN in ROMAN'S 7!!
14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it."
Paul was the worst of all sinners even as he spread the Word of salvation.
"Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners - of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life." [1 Timothy 1:15-16]
14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it."
Paul was the worst of all sinners even as he spread the Word of salvation.
"Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners - of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life." [1 Timothy 1:15-16]
But,again, do you have any doubt that Paul was saved? He was not
obedient!! He violated the commands of God and Jesus!! He was saved by BELIEF
in Christ as the son of God!! and nothing else.
The concept of when we are saved is crucial. The “legalists”
,who want your money, say you are not saved until death and “judgment”. It is
that simple. That way you will give God money through them!! and at the end when they are running your video tape in Heaven for "judgement", we will see you dropping money in the plate for the "church" mortgage. You are in!! ? NOT!!!
Luke 7:50. " And he said to the woman, "Thy faith hath
saved thee; (past tense) go
in peace."
Romans 8:24,"For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not
hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching
of Christ is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved
it is the power of God.
2 Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us (past
tense) , and called us with an
holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own
purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world
began."
Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we
have done, but according to his mercy he saved us (PAST TENSE), by the washing of
regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost ."
Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto
righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
2 Corinthians 6:2 For he saith, I have heard
thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee:
behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation. (what
is it about “NOW” that you don’t understand? Jesus died one time. That's it. He doesn't die each day your sin. )
Ephesians 1:13 "In whom ye also trusted, after that
ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after
that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of
promise,
2 Timothy 3:15 "And that from a child thou hast known the holy
scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
2 Corinthians 1:22 "Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of
the Spirit in our hearts".( How can you be sealed and not saved Forever ??? )
1 John 5:13 "These things have I written unto
you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye
have eternal life, ..( not "may have")... and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of
God.
This not the past tense . That is very important to defeat
the "judgment crowd".
Don't let the Legalists STACK requirements on your salvation.
Don't let the Legalists STACK requirements on your salvation.
Let
me demonstrate the attempt at "stacking" requirements on salvation. They want to create myth of illusive Salvation and you never quite "make it". Do you?
What
are the criteria for Salvation promoted by the Legalists ? Let
me number some of them and you can check off those that you think essential to enter
eternal life. Have fun and make a list of more if you can think of any.
1.
Belief in Jesus Christ as the Son of God.
2
Baptism
3.
Confession of sin to a priest
4.
Confession of sin to God
5."Repentance"
6.
"Obedience" to Old Testament laws
7.
"Obedience" to Old and New testament
laws
8.
"Obedience" to New Testament
commands
9.
Worship of Mary
10.
Worship of the Bible
11.
Attendance at the building of the
"professional" Christian
12.
Good Works
13.
Constant Prayer
14.
Sinlessness
15.
Worship at the professional Christians
"Church" only on Saturday.
16. Worship at the professional Christians
"Church" only on Sunday.
17. Tithing (Not in the
new testament)
18. You are predestined
19. White linen underwear (Mormons)
20.Being "Born Again"
Now go back to number 1
and go read John 3:16 and tell us what
else is there. It is that simple.
When are YOU saved?
YOU ARE SAVED WHEN YOU BELIEVE!!! (like
the thief on the cross!! Right?). The Thief did nothing else-- NOTHING ELSE.
Now ,we
must discuss "When are we saved? There are two Schools. One is
driven by money for the "professional Christian" ( Legalist) and
one is in the Bible.
The legalist will tell you that salvation comes
at the end of life. You don't know the requirements because they are cloaked in
ambiguity. ( See the elements above and tell me they are not created by
the "professionals" to make salvation ambiguous.)
God tells us that we are saved WHEN WE BELIEVE
IN JESUS as the son of God who died for our sins.
The Catholic "Church"
want you to strive to the "last rights" dispensed by a
"professional" to hope "ye" are saved. The poor parishioner never
really knows-- does he/she? If the Priest does not dispense absolution at the
right time, you might die in sin and are banished to oblivion.
You have protestants who preach "prosperity "..."just live by the law " or
"obey" Jesus and you might make MONEY. The prosperity bunch is interested in one thing-- THEIR PROSPERITY. They totally
ignore the Gospel and reimpose the law because without it they cannot pay for
that skiing vacation, 401K ,house car etc. Send them a “seed”—a zucchini seed is big enough to see and easy to
mail. You will not get 100 fold zucchini seeds from God. God already owns EVERY THING!! Did you know that?He doesn't need your seeds or your money.
These folks you have "obey!!" -- OBEY WHAT??? I have asked them many times to tell me
"what do I have to obey??" NO ANSWER. Crickets.
In my opinion, what they want you to obey is the old testament tithing to them as the agent for God so they can pay for their "million dollar radio station" or satellite time and their salaries and the salaries for their wife and kids and parents and house and 401k and kids college. You are a sucker if you fall for that scam. God doesn't need your money, THEY DO.
In my opinion, what they want you to obey is the old testament tithing to them as the agent for God so they can pay for their "million dollar radio station" or satellite time and their salaries and the salaries for their wife and kids and parents and house and 401k and kids college. You are a sucker if you fall for that scam. God doesn't need your money, THEY DO.
They are among thousands of "professional
Christians" who live off of deferred salvation . If Salvation is a gift --
why do you need these folks?
God loved us so much that he sacrificed his Son
and whoever believes (defined :"accepts as true") receives everlasting life. That is at
the moment of acceptance of truth --not at death!! There is no judgment of the
saved ,None!!!. Why would one already pardoned face trial?
We are saved by faith as a free gift, NOW !and even if we sin all
the time just like Paul said he did in Romans 7 we are and shall remain saved through the sacrifice of the living Son of God.
Live free is Christ. He died for your sin!!.
Live free is Christ. He died for your sin!!.
You cannot be saved by your performance. It is only by belief ( accepting as true) that Jesus is the living Son of God.